ALEX: By the way-- have you tried staying
conscious while you fall asleep? Fascinating experience.
SIMON: Yes, I tried that a few times at
the beginning of my dream experiments last autumn, and haven't tried since. I
had mixed results, but a few times I think I was close. The time I think I had
the most success I started dreaming and it seemed like a hallucination. A
balloonish head was rising from the bottom of my field of view and I had the
impression that it was someone coming to welcome me to the dreamworld but then
the sudden spark of victory and surprise woke me up. That is the hard part---
keeping your own awareness from waking you up.
Do you have any hints or
experiences you'd like to share? I should try to start that again.
ALEX: I don't try to sleep until I'm
pretty tired. I see a very weak hallucination almost from when I close my
eyes-- a little like a "dream machine", if you've experienced that. I try and
relax, and lie on my back like I do to go to sleep. My breathing gets slow and
deep, and my body relaxes. I can feel the muscles getting more and more slack.
At the same time, my willpower fades. I don't fight sleep, merely be as aware
as possible. At some point, I am unconscious, and I don't remember anything.
I've done it half a dozen times.
I once listened to an audio book called "learning from the Himalayan masters" of
an Indian guy who spent his youth in the Himalayas, going from cave to cave, and
learning from fellow aesthetic monks. At one point he talked about trying to be
conscious of the point of sleep. That fascinated me, so I tried to do exactly
that.